Speeches on the Second Reading of the Church Patronage (Scotland) Bill in the House of Lords, June 2, 1874: And Earl of Camperdown's Amendment, June 9, 1874, Placing the Election of Ministers in the Hands of Ratepayers (Classic Reprint)

Excerpt from Speeches on the Second Reading of the Church Patronage (Scotland) Bill in the House of Lords, June 2, 1874: And Earl of Camperdown's Amendment, June 9, 1874, Placing the Election of Ministers in the Hands of Ratepayers

Church, avoid as long as you' can coming to Parlia ment at all.'. Why did I give this advice? Because, my Lords, I have long been of opinion that on all questions affecting the relations between Church and State the Condition of 'the public mind and'of the mind of Parliament is' simply chaos. I think the Most Rev. Prelate (the Archbishop of Canterbury) 15 now having some experience as to the confused state' of the public mind on all questions relating to Church Establishments. It would be very difficult, indeed, to say what is the prevailing sentiment. Bishops without authority - congregations without discipline Churches without government - religion without theo logical belief - these appear to be the devoutest aspi rations of public writers, and of not a few public men. 'and so now in the same spirit I hear of propositions being thrust upon the Established Church of Scot land from without which would -be fatal to her. I hear of proposals that her ministers should be elected, not by those who adhere to her, but by those who are her avowed enemies. It was not without reason, therefore, that I was afraid that 'if the Established Church of Scotland came to Par liament she would not get what she really wanted, but Would have thrust upon her s'ome measure, in the name of reform, involving some gross violation of all principle, and which would be disastrous to her. Then, my Lords, at a later~period I knew that the last'parliafnent was a peculiarly unfavourable one for6 'the church patronage (scotland) bill.

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