Excerpt from New Edition of the Babylonian Talmud, Vol. 9: Original Text, Edited, Corrected, Formulated, and Translated Into English
My own conviction. Which of course, is based on very superficial knowl edge mostly gleaned form the early Christian Fathers, is that at first, the line of demarcation between the Jewish Christians and the Jews was not so strong as it became afterwards. But at any rate, there must be more references to them than appear on the surface. It seems to me. And that is what I want to know. But I have no theory to vindicate and seek the knowledge only for myself.
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Excerpt from New Edition of the Babylonian Talmud, Vol. 9: Original Text, Edited, Corrected, Formulated, and Translated Into English
My own conviction. Which of course, is based on very superficial knowl edge mostly gleaned form the early Christian Fathers, is that at first, the line of demarcation between the Jewish Christians and the Jews was not so strong as it became afterwards. But at any rate, there must be more references to them than appear on the surface. It seems to me. And that is what I want to know. But I have no theory to vindicate and seek the knowledge only for myself.
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Excerpt from New Edition of the Babylonian Talmud, Vol. 9: Original Text, Edited, Corrected, Formulated, and Translated Into English
We have received also some private letters from educated people, asking why they do not find any mention of Jesus of Nazareth. And in answer to the criticism as well as to the many letters we have received, we beg to give some letters of an editor of a scientific paper of this country, which we think will throw some light on this matter.
Rev. Michael Rodkinson, New York City.
Dear Sir: - The receipt of Volume XII. of the Talmud brings back recollections of a pleasant hour spent with you in my office, and the information which you so kindly gave me on several very obscure points. Perhaps you will pardon a personal letter of inquiry on a point or two in Sabbath that have especially interested me.
You will remember where the subject is discussed as to whether it was lawful to rescue books from the flames, the point turning especially, as I read it, that on the one hand the books of unbelievers should be allowed to perish, while on the other hand, these same books also contain the Sacred Name.
R. Abuha is asked if the books of the Be Abhidon should be saved, and gives an equivocal reply. It is stated that Rabh went to neither the Be Abhidon nor the Be Nitzrephe. Samuel went to the Abhidon, and Mar Bar Joseph "was of their society."
Your note on the passage leaves it conjectural who the people were. To me it seems altogether likely that they were Christian sects (possibly Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians). I should infer this because, first, R. Tarphon's statement immediately precedes it, and Christian tradition at least connect s him with disputes with Christians. Second, the story of Ema Shalom and her brother Gamaliel II., and the philosopher and judge follows it. It seems to me that there are at least three implied quotations in this story from Matthew's Gospel or some other Christian document: "Let your light shine," "I came not to destroy but fulfill the law," and the statement about son and daughter inheriting alike.
Do Hebrew scholars think that Christians are indicated by Be Abhidon and Be Nitzrephe? And if so, how is the fact explained that Samuel went to one of them, unless it be that Samuel is Saul (Paul), and how could Mar Bar Joseph be of their society?
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